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now, president obama is a good debater. i think generally what governor kritty was saying is when the stakes are this high in an election like this, when you have -- when you've added $5 trillion in debt and we have the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if governor romney is writing op-eds 48 hours before that's supposed to be about economy and domestic policy that he's trying to send a signal to jim laird that he wants libya brought up? >> i don't think he's going to mind if libya's brought up. it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look
now, president obama is a good debater. i think generally what governor kritty was saying is when the stakes are this high in an election like this, when you have -- when you've added $5 trillion in debt and we have the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if...
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many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new mission. reassuring conservative pundits. republicans familiar with the calls say ryan's tone has been positive and upbeat but he has acknowledged that the campaign has made some missteps. this is not liberal bias. this is the national review reporting. the vice presidential candidate is trying to reassure conservative pundits. >> well, conservative pundits, you know, mainstream republican, nobody has been a huge romney constituency here. you know, conservatives loved it when romney got put on the ticket. they thought this was a good sign that the romney campaign was finally going to be about
many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new...
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paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate
paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater...
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look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put o
look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in...
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question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off again, second debate for them. and it comes as a new poll is out showing a mass shift in massachusetts. and joip our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. this is my song pick of the day. [ male announcer ] your mouth is cleanest after a dentist visit. ♪ but between check-ups, it goes through a
question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground...
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in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to pay for the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> around the same time governor romney was making a surprise appearance at the conservative political action conference, cpac in denver before heading to virginia for an event with congressman paul ryan later on this evening. zoo >> i know your passion for econo america and your desire to take our country back. for that to happen you guys have to cheer here and knock on doors and get people who vo
in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have...
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this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the professional consultants and politicians who get paid to spin you guys. that's not what my job is. it's a big n
this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with...
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but president obama plans to take the debates seriously. continue the conversation that he had with the american people during his convention speech and talk about the specifics about moving our economy and our country forward. like his plan to increase manufacturing jobs by one million, like his plan to cut oil imports in half in ten years, and his plan to make sure we continue to fight for the middle class and working families. >> but all were promises he made in the first term. is it fair to say the president's second term promise is, i'm continuing everything in the first term? does he owe the american public who seems to have some yearning for some change, and we can have a debate about how much change they want but they want something to chapg. they want the tone in washington to change. what does president obama owe them credibly on what change he'll bring in a second term? >> well, we have already brought a considerable amount of change. president obama inherited the largest set of problems of any president since fdr. in the last si
but president obama plans to take the debates seriously. continue the conversation that he had with the american people during his convention speech and talk about the specifics about moving our economy and our country forward. like his plan to increase manufacturing jobs by one million, like his plan to cut oil imports in half in ten years, and his plan to make sure we continue to fight for the middle class and working families. >> but all were promises he made in the first term. is it...
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here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a ve
here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy...
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he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to to go. e.j.dionne, great to have you here. >> nice to see you. >>> it's political debate season to be sure. massachusetts senator scott brown and elizabeth warren just completed their second televised debate. you might recall the first one. let's see if senator brown's, but she doesn't look native american card is the only one in his deck. that's it next. >>> congressman barney frank will assess the scot brown and elizabeth warren debate which just wrapped up. don't miss that. >>> the columbus dispatch released their latest poll yesterday and found in the state of ohio it's president obama leading mitt romney right now b
he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to to go. e.j.dionne,...
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when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening becaus
when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a...
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that's where he made his mistakes during the primary debates. and obama has a tendency to ramble. and i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> listen, i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states, and go toe-to-toe, and offer without any media fundamentalad press densz densy, i think it will make a difference. >> romney had a conversation with "good morning america" about that. let me play a portion and have you respond to it in particular. >> i think he's going to say a lot of things that aren't accurate. but i think that the challenge that i'll have in the debate is that the president tends to, how shall i say it, say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents. >> give me an example of what he would want to attack, what the president has done, and how you think romney will handle it. >> well, i think president obama has, and i want to be charitable here, has a casual relationship with the truth. he's very eloquent. he's extremely articulate. he is very bright.
that's where he made his mistakes during the primary debates. and obama has a tendency to ramble. and i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> listen, i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states, and go toe-to-toe, and offer without any media fundamentalad press densz densy, i think it will make a difference. >> romney had a conversation with "good morning america"...
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he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to to go. e.j.dionne, great to have you here. >> nice to see you. >>> it's political debate season to be sure. massachusetts senator scott brown and elizabeth warren just completed their second televised debate. you might recall the first one. let's see if senator brown's, but she doesn't look native american card is the only one in his deck. that's it next. mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who mi
he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to to go. e.j.dionne,...
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and obama has a tendency to ramble. i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity, to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states and go toe to toe and offer without a media filter, a devastating critique of his failed leadership over the last four years, it's going to make a difference in this race. >> one of the things, ralph, if i can interrupt. this is something that romney says he wants to do in the debates. he had a conversation with "good morning america" about that. let me play a portion and have you respond. >> i think he's going to say a lot of things that aren't accurate. i think that the challenge that i'll have in the debate is that the president tends to how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents. >> give me an example of what he would want to attack. what the president has done, and how you think romney will handle it. >> well i think president obama has, and i want to
and obama has a tendency to ramble. i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity, to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states and go toe to toe and offer without a media filter, a devastating critique of his failed leadership over the last four years, it's going to make a difference in this race. >> one of the things, ralph, if i can interrupt. this is something that romney says...
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that's one of the dynamics of the first debate, how aggressive president obama will be in calling out mitt romney on how inaccurate. we'll call it inaccurate or maybe even, he'll use the word dishonest, about his position. steve benen. good to have you with us. thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> the missouri republican who has no idea how a woman's body works is now calling his opponent unladylike. >>> and tammy baldwin's campaign is hitting tommy thompson for pledging to do away with medicare. the latest on those senate races, next. >>> and george w. bush is creeping up on mitt romney like a cayman island stingray. tonight, we'll show you why "w" just might be mitt romney's october surprise. >> i know the human being and fish can co-exist peacefully. eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicar
that's one of the dynamics of the first debate, how aggressive president obama will be in calling out mitt romney on how inaccurate. we'll call it inaccurate or maybe even, he'll use the word dishonest, about his position. steve benen. good to have you with us. thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> the...
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however, mitt romney has 20 primary debates under his belt and president obama has none this time around. if you look at history, the past four incumbent presidents have had a difficult time in the first debate. give me your take on this. >> the president has had numerous press conferences. obviously piece asked questions about policy and he has to answer them. he has to practice having sharper answers, because you have a limited amount of time. i do think, though, that governor romney has a disadvantage in that he hasn't been very specific. he's going to have to be very specific. the president will hold him accountable to facts and figures. you know, the president knows his policies. at this point i hope he knows governor romney's policies. so i think this will be a good debate between two people very skilled. obviously, governor romney has more practice, more recent practice, but i do think substance matters and that will be very helpful to the president. >> everybody watches for that memorable moment, and part of the trick is to have one ready to go but make it look like it came off t
however, mitt romney has 20 primary debates under his belt and president obama has none this time around. if you look at history, the past four incumbent presidents have had a difficult time in the first debate. give me your take on this. >> the president has had numerous press conferences. obviously piece asked questions about policy and he has to answer them. he has to practice having sharper answers, because you have a limited amount of time. i do think, though, that governor romney...
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right now, at this very moment, mitt romney and barack obama are holed up in last-minute debate prep for tomorrow night's main event. speaking to a volunteer nevada yaeds, president obama made it sound like a college cram session minus the no doze and pizza. >> basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> governor romney, however, may have twice the work load. he'll have two opponents on stage tomorrow, president obama and himself. eugene robinson write in "the washington post" -- it prompts to be an epic clash. mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure. bill
right now, at this very moment, mitt romney and barack obama are holed up in last-minute debate prep for tomorrow night's main event. speaking to a volunteer nevada yaeds, president obama made it sound like a college cram session minus the no doze and pizza. >> basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> governor romney, however, may have twice the work load. he'll have two opponents on stage tomorrow, president obama and...
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you know, i'm going ten to one that mitt romney touches president obama during this debate and loses his cool. that's just who the guy is, i think. susan, did governor chris christie think he was helping mitt romney by saying that the debate would just be turning this race upside down? what do you think? >> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of people are hoping and thinking. mitt romney delivers a vision with some specifics that people can grab on to and can turn this race around. the fact is things flip-flopped very, very quickly in the last two or three weeks. they can go back the other way. only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn this around as many months as he's had, one misstep after another, and by a wide margin, americans think president obama is going to win this debate and has the upper hand. what about expectations and what about the possibility of romney turning this around? what do you think? >> well, that's clearly thei
you know, i'm going ten to one that mitt romney touches president obama during this debate and loses his cool. that's just who the guy is, i think. susan, did governor chris christie think he was helping mitt romney by saying that the debate would just be turning this race upside down? what do you think? >> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of people are hoping and thinking. mitt...
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if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the course of the debate and helped himself by saying to americans, think back, are you better off today than you were four years ago, is it easier to get a job, are there fewer of you that are unemployed and by getting the american folks to concentrate on that as opposed to how much they like president carter really helped. >> that's a variation of the question that the romney campaign has been asking for several months and the results that they're getting based on the polling is not the answer that the romney campaign wants. >> well style matters in the debate. think about ronald reagan. jimmy carter had a lot of
if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the...
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gallup poll, rural whites prefer ahmadinejad to obama. a quote from a west virginia resident, i like him better. >> the one poll that republicans might accept as legitimate. guess where that headline originated? "the onion," america's favorite source for fake news. another "onion" news item today, florida to experiment with new 600 lever voting machine. >>> finally, the latest music and dance tribute to president obama. this is all over the place literally. >> i'm barack obama and i party. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> that guy behind the mask is one hell of a dancer. the performance is suitably entitled "obama works it." that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, your business with j.j. ramberg.
gallup poll, rural whites prefer ahmadinejad to obama. a quote from a west virginia resident, i like him better. >> the one poll that republicans might accept as legitimate. guess where that headline originated? "the onion," america's favorite source for fake news. another "onion" news item today, florida to experiment with new 600 lever voting machine. >>> finally, the latest music and dance tribute to president obama. this is all over the place literally....
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it's clear that president obama will use his ample rhett for cal gifts in debating experience at one end. we expect a 90-minute attack ad. david axelrod not to be outdone by the obama campaign. saying we expect mitt romney to be prepared, disciplined and aaggressive. the first debate generally favor challengers. both sides are trying to manage expectations here? >> absolutely. >> this guy's really good. >> how do we get in the ring with him all of a sudden? >> right. >> they're skilled on their feet. that's how they got this far. i don't know that the second and third debate will matter that much for governor romney if there isn't something significant out of debate number one. >> i agree. >> it's not because of the president is running ahead now. people are voting now. what those polls tell us is this the way it's going down as we speak. >> david, what do you think? do you think that the debate next wednesday could be some sort of game changer, or do you think we're perhaps reading way too much into it and this thing is probably already set in stone? >> nothing is ever set in stone.
it's clear that president obama will use his ample rhett for cal gifts in debating experience at one end. we expect a 90-minute attack ad. david axelrod not to be outdone by the obama campaign. saying we expect mitt romney to be prepared, disciplined and aaggressive. the first debate generally favor challengers. both sides are trying to manage expectations here? >> absolutely. >> this guy's really good. >> how do we get in the ring with him all of a sudden? >> right....
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gallup poll, rural whites prefer ahmadinejad to obama. a quote from a west virginia resident, i like him better. >> the one poll that republicans might accept as legitimate. guess where that headline originated? "the onion," america's favorite source for fake news. another "onion" news item today, florida to experiment with new 600 lever voting machine. >>> finally, the latest music and dance tribute to president obama. this is all over the place literally. >> i'm barack obama and i party. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> that guy behind the mask is one hell of a dancer. the performance is suitably entitled "obama works it." that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, your business with j.j. ramberg. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enoug
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president obama and the campaign has won the summer. never behind in the polls, had a better convention, no question about it. and in the post convention, it's only gotten worse. now we're down to the debates in denver on wednesday night. the first one is on domestic policy. there are some republicans who are putting their credibility on the line, going out on the talking heads saying that mitt romney, after all of these months of missteps and not being sure of where he is on the issues, he's just going to turn it all around and, by the way, they can't explain the math on how they are going to turn it around. get your cell phones out. tonight's question. do you trust mitt romney's and paul ryan's math? text a for yes or b for no. you can go to our blog and leave a comment. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me is howard fineman, nbc news political analyst. great to have you with us tonight. it's really been an all over the map strategy, almost like a dart board mentality. let's see where it lands today. can paul r
president obama and the campaign has won the summer. never behind in the polls, had a better convention, no question about it. and in the post convention, it's only gotten worse. now we're down to the debates in denver on wednesday night. the first one is on domestic policy. there are some republicans who are putting their credibility on the line, going out on the talking heads saying that mitt romney, after all of these months of missteps and not being sure of where he is on the issues, he's...
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the obama people are smart with the bain ads. his only defense sibelieve in free enterprise and someone said he made $20 million while we were fire and lost our health coverage. he became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to the reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly, the reagan democrats thought he understood them and had come from a family like theirs. he cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich and by the rich and out of touch. >> there big moments and every campaign. romney's 47% remarks may be one of the biggest for him and still playing out. republicans chances for regaining the senate are diminishing day by day and todd akin is at the center of all of it. stay with us. we're sitting on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be safe. thousands of jobs. use the most advanced technology to protect our water. billi
the obama people are smart with the bain ads. his only defense sibelieve in free enterprise and someone said he made $20 million while we were fire and lost our health coverage. he became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to the reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly, the reagan democrats thought he understood them and had come from a family like theirs. he cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich and by the rich and out of touch....
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president obama looking down during the debate. i have a memory of 2008 where we remember the first debate with obama and john mccain, where mccain did not make eye contact for much of the debate with obama. looking down. surprised by romney's strength and not engaged. >> he was intense. he leaned in. it was like he had a lot of coffee before the debate. and he was just going after the president. my question for you, joe, is why can't he transfer this to the campaign trail sf. >> that's what everybody said last night. i think he was comfortable talking about facts. talking about information. i don't think -- >> he wasn't explaining a lot of stuff. >> just hanging out with the kids. >> we're talking about speeches and rallies, things people want to hear. i bet the americans watching last night are the same people going to the rallies. they want to hear more. >> and that's a challenge for mitt romney. you heard that after everybody got over the shock of how great mitt romney and did and how poorly the president did. now can he conver
president obama looking down during the debate. i have a memory of 2008 where we remember the first debate with obama and john mccain, where mccain did not make eye contact for much of the debate with obama. looking down. surprised by romney's strength and not engaged. >> he was intense. he leaned in. it was like he had a lot of coffee before the debate. and he was just going after the president. my question for you, joe, is why can't he transfer this to the campaign trail sf. >>...
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in the debate. governor romney has been accused of flip-flopping on issues in the past. should he focus more on his own policies instead of discrediting statements of the challenger? >> a couple things. listening to the last answer, it's fascinating we focus more on the campaign than about performance. if you look where we are as a country, we have over 8% unemployment. our debt is now at $16 trillion. it was a little over 10 when president obama took office. president obama is talking about everything but his record, because he can't run on his record. mitt romney needs to have a very broad, bold statement about what he would do as president, and contrast that very, very plainly with the current performance of president obama. obama does not want to talk about the current economy and his current performance, because he knows under that debate he loses. >> if it's all about -- if it's all about record, can mitt romney run on his record and appeal to those that are the ground base of his own party to
in the debate. governor romney has been accused of flip-flopping on issues in the past. should he focus more on his own policies instead of discrediting statements of the challenger? >> a couple things. listening to the last answer, it's fascinating we focus more on the campaign than about performance. if you look where we are as a country, we have over 8% unemployment. our debt is now at $16 trillion. it was a little over 10 when president obama took office. president obama is talking...
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"the washington post" reporting, "republican strategists fretting over obama's recent rise said the debates could be the last best chance for romney to deliver a decisive blow. change the narrative, steady his campaign." here to talk about that, a former political director to president george w. bush. also a romney supporter. matt, good afternoon to you, sir. >> great to be with you. >> is this the last best chance for governor romney? true or false? what do you think? >> i guess kind of true. it's a great opportunity. i think it's a big mistake for candidates, especially when they're running for president, to put all the marbles in a debate. because really what you want to do in a debate, is first of all, you don't want to be swinging so much for the fences that you make a lot of errors. i worked for president george w. bush, as you said, and in his first debate in 2004, a lot of people felt like he gave a subpar performance. and there's no question that we breathe some life into our opponents, and if president obama, who some have characterized as almost a messianic kind of figure, comes
"the washington post" reporting, "republican strategists fretting over obama's recent rise said the debates could be the last best chance for romney to deliver a decisive blow. change the narrative, steady his campaign." here to talk about that, a former political director to president george w. bush. also a romney supporter. matt, good afternoon to you, sir. >> great to be with you. >> is this the last best chance for governor romney? true or false? what do you...
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>> barack obama he and hiss choice would haven't the debate. after all today's polls are up nine points in ohio. it looks like these debates are just the rapids the president has to go through. if he didn't have them, it would be fair sailing. so for mitt romney, these debates are essential. he's going to have to show that he's presidential. so far when he went to the olympic and maybe gaffed and he stumbled with that 44%. they're not sure they can live with the guy for four years so mitt romney has to really be the one that comes out the winner. he's got to score. >> there was a time between the famous kennedy-nixon tapes that there were no televised debates. why are they considered so vital now? >> well, the kennedy-nixon debates created so much attention in 1960. many people think that's why ted kennedy won. if you recall ford made famously the gap that -- and then certainly by 1980, ronald reagan was very behind in the polls was just able to tidal wave over jimmy carter with quips like there you go again in a sort of staged format. since 19
>> barack obama he and hiss choice would haven't the debate. after all today's polls are up nine points in ohio. it looks like these debates are just the rapids the president has to go through. if he didn't have them, it would be fair sailing. so for mitt romney, these debates are essential. he's going to have to show that he's presidential. so far when he went to the olympic and maybe gaffed and he stumbled with that 44%. they're not sure they can live with the guy for four years so mitt...
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the obama people were very smart, went out there right away with the bain ads. he defined romney. he had no defense. his only defense was i made free enterprise. he suddenly became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to those reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly those reagan democrats thought romney had understood them, had come from a family a lot like theirs and cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich, by the rim. >> there are big moments in everybody's campaign. and romney's 47% remark may be his. and todd akin is at the center. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason to look twice. the entirely new lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is rudy. who switched to
the obama people were very smart, went out there right away with the bain ads. he defined romney. he had no defense. his only defense was i made free enterprise. he suddenly became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to those reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly those reagan democrats thought romney had understood them, had come from a family a lot like theirs and cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich, by the rim. >> there...
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i think obama will play with him, parry the aassaults, block the blows. i think it will start slow with both men trying to be cautious neither being able to land a punch. then it will happen. romney will deliver what is clearly a rerehearsed moment, a sound bite. it will be something about obama not delivering on a promise. he says you do, but hasn't. he will expect the president to defend himself and what when he points to what he inherited from bush and romney will say he's not running against bush. this will be his strategy. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to deal with it. a month ago all romney had to say was obama got his best. he got his stimulus, got his health care program and here we are. i think that might have nailed it. a month ago. but something's changed. it could have been something like bil . >>> good evening and welcome to the ed show from new york. five days until the first debate. voter fraud is alive and healthy. we rip the cover over the voter suppression scandal. it's there. this is the ed show. le
i think obama will play with him, parry the aassaults, block the blows. i think it will start slow with both men trying to be cautious neither being able to land a punch. then it will happen. romney will deliver what is clearly a rerehearsed moment, a sound bite. it will be something about obama not delivering on a promise. he says you do, but hasn't. he will expect the president to defend himself and what when he points to what he inherited from bush and romney will say he's not running...
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he's just not a great debater. >> look whose feelings of barack obama came back to her. i guess what happened in charlotte stayed in charlotte. >> when american markets broke down, who jump started our engine? barack obama! and when america needed him most, who got us rolling again on the road to recovery? >> but let me ask you this, people, who couldn't get laid in a whore house with a first full of hundreds! barack obama. >> i still can't get over her speech. alex, will you please get some clips of that. i want to go back in time. that was -- >> when she was on the dating game. have you seen the clip from the dating game? >> that was fantastic. no, i found her to be riveting at the convention. >> she was riveting. >> i could not take my eyes off her. >> the way that charlie sheen is riveting. >> it was unbelievable. why not? let's throw it out there. >> stay in your own zone. don't channel jennifer granholm here? >> you don't think that'd be attractive. >> what does extreme mika look like. >> i could do the tease as granholm. what do you think? >> do some extreme mika.
he's just not a great debater. >> look whose feelings of barack obama came back to her. i guess what happened in charlotte stayed in charlotte. >> when american markets broke down, who jump started our engine? barack obama! and when america needed him most, who got us rolling again on the road to recovery? >> but let me ask you this, people, who couldn't get laid in a whore house with a first full of hundreds! barack obama. >> i still can't get over her speech. alex,...
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for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 your portfolio has tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 a better chance to grow. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and you can trade all our etfs online, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 commission-free, from your schwab acco
for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#:...
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speaking of zingers, donald trump advises on twitter, in debate mitt romney should ask obama why auto by fri states born in kenya, raised in indonesia. i think that's a great idea, don't you? he's already got his birther joke handy. why not go straight for the birthers. >> his facts are as accurate as the republican facts have been. that was never said in obama's autobiography. it was a silly thing that a publicity agent had made years before. but just to pick up on karen's point for a second, i think she's onto something. you don't come to a gun fight with a butter knife. that's effectively what romney is doing. debates are about, guess what, debates. that means you come with facts and ideas. and it's hard for me to understand what exactly romney is coming to this debate with. >> 20% across the board tax cut. >> right. which has to mean a tax increase for the middle class. it's the only way to pay for it if you want it to be revenue neutral. he can't make the argument about the economy because as we've said, he'll try to make the argument that obama has been an infective steward. we'
speaking of zingers, donald trump advises on twitter, in debate mitt romney should ask obama why auto by fri states born in kenya, raised in indonesia. i think that's a great idea, don't you? he's already got his birther joke handy. why not go straight for the birthers. >> his facts are as accurate as the republican facts have been. that was never said in obama's autobiography. it was a silly thing that a publicity agent had made years before. but just to pick up on karen's point for a...
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for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? yes, ma'am. 100 calories. yea...i'm gonna need some proof. we get that a lot... let me put you on webcan... see? hearty vegetables... lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth that tastes indulgent -- but isn't... so feel free to enjoy a bowl anytime. mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> welcome back to "hardball." after initially urging him to drop out, more and more republicans are now endorsing todd akin out in missouri in that senate race against claire mccaskill. today former senator kid bun gave his endorsement but only weeks ago
for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? yes, ma'am. 100 calories. yea...i'm gonna need some...
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for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. >>> welcome back to "hardball." after initially urging him to drop out, more and more republicans are now endorsing todd akin out in missouri in that senate race against claire mccaskill. today former senator kid bun gave his endorsement but only weeks ago bond and other top republicans urged him to get out of the race saying these com
for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in...
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since you've debated mitt romney what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. >> mr. speaker, if president obama is re-elected, as a historian and student and long-time strategist in the party is this more of a disaster for, and explain more by mitt romney being a bad candidate or will it say something about the weakness of the republican party? >> since we're going to keep the house seats and the senate and may end up with more governorships than 1921 i don't think it says much about the republican party. we have more legislative seats since 1925. we have more candidates of diversity. you look at susana martinez, nicki haley, a much bigger, broader party than the washington consultants understand. >> includes marco rubio. these aren't people on the margins. >> this is about a specific campaign with a specific set of problems, not about the broader republican party. if barack obama does win he faces an enormous decision the first three or four weeks after that election. is he going to govern like bill clinton or keep governin
since you've debated mitt romney what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. >> mr. speaker, if president obama is re-elected, as a historian and student and long-time strategist in the party is this more of a disaster for, and explain more by mitt romney being a bad candidate or will it say something about the weakness of the republican party? >> since we're going to keep the house seats and the senate and may end up with more governorships...
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you know, if, like, al gore, you have president obama losing three debates, it can happen. but let's say you lose ohio, suddenly mitt romney has to win north carolina. he has to win virginia. he has to win iowa. he has to win new hampshire. he has to win colorado. he has to win nevada. and, of course, he has to win florida, which he's losing now. by the way, if you don't win florida, we're not even having this discussion. let's talk about what we're getting for christmas. >> it's clear that in looking for a path to 270 electoral votes for romney without ohio, we're neither predicting or hoping it will happen, we're simply running the numbers. ohio is -- >> are we going to have to caveat for the rest of the year? >> almost always, just for that. the left is still a little restive. >> particularly fox news is in on the conspiracy polls. >> closing the auto bailout, not strong support from evangelicals, and it's more of a populist state than some of these others. so he can get to 270 without ohio because there may be a rising tide that lifts all the other battleground states,
you know, if, like, al gore, you have president obama losing three debates, it can happen. but let's say you lose ohio, suddenly mitt romney has to win north carolina. he has to win virginia. he has to win iowa. he has to win new hampshire. he has to win colorado. he has to win nevada. and, of course, he has to win florida, which he's losing now. by the way, if you don't win florida, we're not even having this discussion. let's talk about what we're getting for christmas. >> it's clear...